FAQ for RMIUG YahooGroups Email Lists
"When you enter a city, abide by its customs."
– The Talmud
- Q-0 What are the "RULES" of this list?
- Q-1 What is the Rocky Mountain Internet User Group – RMIUG?
- Q-2 Who runs RMIUG?
- Q-3 What are the RMIUG Email lists on Yahoogroups?
- Q-4 What are the posting guidelines to RMIUG Email lists?
- Q-5 Are attachments allowed on the RMIUG Email lists?
- Q-6 I sent an Email with my resume attached … but it's didn't appear – what happened?
- Q-7 How many people will see my posting?
- Q-8 Oh no – I just received a message saying that a child has been kidnapped. Should I post it to the list?
- Q-9 Someone in RMIUG makes me angry. I want to say rude things about (their company/their mom/their co-workers/them).
- Q-10 I'm moving to a new company. How can I keep getting mail YahooGroups?
- Q-11 I'm getting flooded with YahooGroups messages. How can I change this?
- Q-12 What is an YahooGroups Profile?
- Q-13 Do I have to have to register at YahooGroups to get RMIUG Email?
- Q-14 Is the RMIUG YahooGroups list archived anywhere?
- Q-15 WHAT IS WRONG WITH ALL CAPS?
- Q-16 I don't have a clue about netiquette. Where can I look?
- Q-17 What is the #1 reason people leave this list?
- Q-18 I have a question about YahooGroups. Who should I talk to?
- Q-19 What is this "XOR Inc" ad on the bottom of each posting?
- Q-20 I just Emailed something to the list – how do I delete it?
- Q-21 OK, the Email in thousands of peoples mailboxes can't be deleted, but how do I delete it from the YahooGroups archive?
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Q-0: What are the "RULES" of this list?
A-0: Some general guidelines/rules are listed below in addition to some misc. Information available at the RMIUG web site at www.rmiug.org/ Note that these guidelines/rules can be changed at any time without prior notice as the moderators/maintainers of the Email lists and/or Web Sites see fit. It's a FREE service run by VOLUNTEERS – we've been doing this since 1994 – rest assured we've seen just about every version of stupidity/rudeness/flamefests/etc. We prefer to take a hands-off approach and let things/situations work themselves out, so don't ask us to get involved unless it is something really outa hand … and pls be nice to us and the subscribers.
Q-1: What is RMIUG?
A-1: RMIUG (Rocky Mountain Internet Users Group) is a group that meets every other a month to learn about the Internet through presentations, information sharing, questions & answers and informal conversations. We typically have about a 100 people attend our meetings. They are held at NCAR in Boulder on the second Tuesday of the odd month, from 7:00 – 9:00 pm. There is an optional half-hour period from 6:30 to 7:00 for new user questions and informal networking. We try to start at 7:00 sharp with general announcements from us and the audience. Our featured presentation will usually start around 7:15-7:30 and last about an hour. Minutes from the meetings will be posted to the RMIUG Email list. There is no cost for attending the meetings or joining the group.
We also have some fairly active Email lists (see most of this FAQ! .
And finally, our web site can be seen at www.rmiug.org/
Q-2: Who runs RMIUG?
A-2: There is an "executive" committee that try to keep things from reaching a total state in anarchy. The 5 Exec's are :
You can read more about us at the RMIUG Web Site and can Email all
of us at firstname.lastname@example.org. We are a volunteer run organization.
Q-3: What are the RMIUG Email lists on Yahoogroups?
A-3: There are currently four RMIUG lists of interest to folks:
rmiug-announce: Moderated list. Low volume, restricted to meeting announcements/Minutes, and items of direct interest to our members. Everyone should subscribe to this list; but nobody can post to it unless it is approved by the list moderator … and Alek is tough! Volume has averaged less than 5 per month.
rmiug-discuss: Unmoderated list that ONLY members can post to. I.e. you must join this list to post (this discourages spamming). This list is for discussion of topics that are of interest to the Front Range, Colorado Internet community – ranging from local Internet events to service provider issues and anything else.
rmiug-jobs: Unmoderated list that anyone can post to. While the "anyone" can allow spamming (and we might change this policy), we wanted to make it easy for employers to post job openings. Can also be used to discuss how use the Internet to explore employment, etc.
rmiug-jobtalk: Unmoderated list that ONLY members can post to. I.e. you must join this list to post (this discourages spamming). This list is for discussions of job-related issues, such as interviewing, job search strategies, recruiters, salary, resumes, etc.
Q-4: What are the posting guidelines to RMIUG Email lists?
A-4: "Standard rules/guidelines" apply to posting – i.e. keep it on topic, be to the point and short, be polite, etc. These simple concepts seems to escape a small handful of people and result in most of the "flame wars"
For rmiug-jobs, we ask/suggest the following:
- Recruiters post no more frequently than 12 times/week (combine posting if you need to).
- Include Company location and job title in the subject line. Example: Boulder, Colorado – Jr. Cold Fusion Developer
- Restrict posting to Colorado and for Internet/computer related ONLY.
Q-5: Are attachments allowed on the RMIUG Email lists?
A-5: NOPE … Yahoogroups is configured to strip these – convert to ASCII. This not only greatly reduces the size of the Emails, but tend to filter out some spam … and also drops a buncha viruses.
Q-6: I sent an Email with my resume attached … but it's didn't appear – what happened?
A-6: Nothing personal, but the RMIUG YahooGroups list is configured to block all attachments. You probably saw this message on the bottom of your original posting:
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Although you can't send an attachment, you can just cut and paste the text of your resume into the body of your message, and then submit it to YahooGroups. This feature was installed to prevent the number of macro viruses and Trojan horses our members are exposed to – it's a good thing.
Q-7: How many people will see my posting?
A-7: As a member of the YahooGroups List, you can view this information
directly at the YahooGroups web site … but the number is in the thousands,
so pick your words carefully and be sure it is appropriate.
Q-8: Oh no – I just received e-mail messages saying that a child has been kidnapped and that people are stealing kidneys in Omaha. Should I post them to the RMIUG YahooGroups list?
A-8: NO!!! Please don't!!! Most stories like this are Urban Legends. If you have a high-gullibility quotient, please review some of the Urban Legends pages before forwarding ANYTHING that says "please forward this to everyone you know". Suggested sites include www.snopes.com and www.urbanlegends.com.
Q-9: Someone on RMIUG makes me angry. I want to say rude things about (their company/their mom/their co-workers/them).
A-9: Don't be a dumbass … does more really need to be said about this?!?
Q-10: I'm changing jobs and moving to a new company. How can I keep getting YahooGroups?
A-10: Before you leave your first address, you should change your YahooGroups profile to include your new address.
Q-11: I'm getting flooded with RMIUG messages. How can I change this?
A-11: By changing your delivery mode. By setting the delivery mode, you determine whether you'd like to receive new messages individually in your e-mail inbox, whether you'd like to receive a daily digest of these messages in various formats, or whether you'd like to read new messages only on the Web at YahooGroups.com (vacation setting). Youu can change this by clicking on MEMBERSHIP OPTIONS on the YahooGroups page.
The average traffic on the rmiug-discuss and rmiug-jobs list is several hundred messages per month. The high message volume is the number one reason members give for unsubscribing to this list … but as mentioned above, YOU can do something about it!
Q-12: What is an YahooGroups Profile?
A-12: Your Member Profile is where all your account information is stored. You use the Member Profile to identify yourself to YahooGroups, and (optionally) to share some information about yourself with other
members of your group. To access your member profile:
1. Sign in at the YahooGroups Web site
2. Click My Groups.
3. Click the link for My Profile.
To learn more about Profiles, click here:
As part of your profile, you can change your e-mail address, enter
alternative e-mail addresses, and edit your password. If you haven't
set up your profile, you should.
Q-13: Do I have to have to register at YahooGroups to get RMIUG Email?
A-13: NO … there is an "Email only" mode which allows you to get the Emails, but doesn't require you to register – more info at: www.YahooGroups.com/help
Q-14: Is the RMIUG YahooGroups list archived anywhere?
A-14: Yes – all messages sent to the YahooGroups list can be reviewed at the messages section of the appropriate list.
Q-15: WHAT IS WRONG WITH ALL CAPS?
A-15: Since the earliest days of text-only communications, capital Letters have been used for emphasis. A message in all capital letter is the internet's equivalent of SHOUTING IN SOMEONE'S EAR. So, posting an all caps message is the easiest way for you to destroy your credibility in front of your peers. Be careful out there!
Q-16: I don't have a clue about netiquette. Where can I look?
A-16: Netiquette is short for Network Etiquette, the continuously evolving standards for polite interaction on the net. If you have questions, (or if you've never heard the word before) please see
Q-17: I have a question about YahooGroups. Who should I talk to?
A-17: There is quite a bit of information available at their web site at:
Q-18: I forgot my password. Can you send it to me?
Q-19: What is this "XOR Inc" ad on the bottom of each posting?
A-19: XOR Inc (www.xor.com/) has been a long-time sponsor/support of RMIUG, and has paid to remove the (much more intrusive) ads that by default come with YahooGroups Email lists. We appreciate their support/assistance and would therefore like to thank them for that.
Q-20: I just Emailed something to the list – how do I delete it?
A-20: The short-n-sweet answer is you can't – it's an Email list and once you hit the SEND button, it's outa your hands. So think about that next time! If you REALLY want to delete that message, an excellent (!) writeup on how to do it is at: www.rmiug.org/remove-email.html/ BTW, if you feel it's appropriate, a simple apology to the list should suffice in most cases if you did something really dumb – most people will respect you more for apologizing/saying you are sorry/or just an OOOPS!
Q-21: OK, the Email in thousands of peoples mailboxes can't be deleted, but how do I delete it from the YahooGroups archive?
A-21: First, you MUST have a registered Yahoo ID in order to do this. Go to the appropriate Yahoogroups Web Page, find the message that YOU sent that you want to delete, click on that, and click on the DELETE button that is at the top and bottom of the posting. Pls do NOT ask the moderator to delete postings for you – the Digital Millenium Copyright Act (DMCA) suggests that if the moderator is willing to delete articles, then they are exercising editorial control over the list, and can then subsequently be held liable if they do NOT remove something inappropriate. Note that in addition to the Yahoogroups archives, Email is kept/stored in various places in the Internet, most of which are beyond our control; so your message will almost certainly "live on" in other places. So the BEST approach is to be careful before you hit that SEND button!